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Search Engine Optimization. The Way It Really Works.

Welcome everyone to the GetProfitable.com Success Interview Series. In this edition it is a real pleasure to have with us Sage Lewis President of SageRock.com.

Sage is a highly regarded Search Engine Optimization Specialist and well known for his insiders knowledge for how to get and keep your company well ranked in the Search Engines, Directories and Indexes.

The following comments are actually excerpts from one of our cassette tapes you can buy individually or in a set titled, "Brand Your Business and Make Your Profits Explode." (For more information click here)

Establishing, promoting and marketing a brand identity for your product, your service, or for your business, is accomplished by the principal tool of communicating who you are, what you do and what result you bring to your customer or your prospective customer.

Branding is more than a logo, or an advertising campaign or a marketing strategy. It is a combination of those and other techniques you employ to provide a solution to your marketplace. This in turn builds brand loyalty that insures long term sales and profits.

We are very fortunate to have as our special guest today, Sage Lewis from SageRock.com. SageRock.com's branding solution message is this "We are the people who get people to your site." And that's exactly what they do.

Each piece of the online marketing and Branding puzzle is an essential ingredient and no ingredient is more valuable to you than getting listed well on the top Internet Search Engines.

This is a key component of your Internet marketing success and is only growing in importance every day. Search engine optimization is an essential part of driving traffic to your site and every client I work with I make sure they understand the importance of this key marketing and promotional tool

And we want to try to pass on some of that to you here right now.

So with all that said, let's jump right into it.

 

 

Question: Sage, What are the different kinds of search engines and how do they work?

Answer: There are 3 types of search engines.  The first kind of search engine is what is known as an Index. An Index is an automated list of sites categorized by what is displayed on the pages of the site it is indexing. AltaVista is a good example of an Index.

When someone submits a site to AltaVista, a spider (an automated indexing program that scours your site) is sent to your web site and indexes all of the material it can read. This is basically all of the text on the site. Keywords, Image text tags, words written in the site - anything that makes sense to the spider is inventoried.

Then all of this information is gathered together, applied to a set of rules setup up by the search engine and then categorized accordingly. So when you, the visitor go to search for the phrase: 'German Shepherd pups' the sites that meet the criteria for those three words appear in the results.

The biggest downside to this kind of search engine is that sometimes the results are inaccurate. This is because everything is automated. I'm sure you've done a search that came up with 500,000 listings and even the top ten didn't all have what you were looking for.

The biggest benefit to indexes are they are excellent resources for finding very specific things. The more far-fetched your search is the better an index will be for you. For example, if you want to see every site that even mentions the cellist Yo-Yo Ma, then an index is for you because one of these spiders has probably indexed every instance of the phrase Yo-Yo Ma.

The next kind of search engine is called a directory. Yahoo! is a directory. All sites in a directory are hand placed by actual human beings. The greatest benefit of this is that when you search in a directory you know that you are likely to find exactly what you are looking for.

As a web site owner, however, you loose a lot of control over how your site is displayed in a directory. The editors of a site like Yahoo! have final say over what the title of your site is and what the description of your site is. The end result of this can be a rather boring but accurate description of your site.

Directories are ideal if you are searching for large sweeping topics. Using our previous example of searching for Yo-Yo Ma in Yahoo! you are going to find many fewer results than in AltaVista because Yahoo! will point you in the general direction of cellists. And only sites that are specifically about Yo-Yo Ma are going to get any mention.

Yahoo! would be a better choice if you wanted to learn about cellists in general and not specifically about one performer.

The third kind of search engine is a "pay for" listing search engine. These work pretty much the way the name says. You agree to pay a certain amount when someone clicks on your site and they will gladly put you at the top of the list of any given phrase you would like.

An example of this kind of engine is GoTo.com.  The biggest fear of this type of listing was that companies would just buy every listing whether their product was appropriate or not. The opposite turned out to be the case. Web site owners realized that they didn't want to be in inappropriate categories because they would be getting a lot of people that weren't really interested in their product.

Pay for listing search engines are turning out to be good resources for searchers and a quick solution for web owners that want to be listed quickly at the top of their particular category.

Question: How important are search engines in promoting my web site?

Answer: Your target market is the determining factor when it comes to how people find new sites like yours. If you sell nationally or worldwide, the search engines are going to do you a world of good. This is because the people who need your product or service know they can get it anywhere so the most logical place to start on the internet is going to be a search engine.

Question: What is the most important search engine?

Answer: By far, the most important search engine is Yahoo! It is the most used web site on the Internet. More people search using Yahoo! than any other resource. It's so well liked because the results it yields are highly accurate and it tends to focus on sites that have a good deal of information.

The downside to that is that it is also the most difficult search engine to get on. Your site has to be highly informative and very cleanly presented - no misspellings or 'under construction' pages. And on top of that, when you go to list your site on Yahoo! you have to choose exactly the right category.

All business oriented web sites must go in the Business and Economy section. Your title must be simply the name of your company. And your description has to be simple, to the point, and highly accurate of what your site is offering. Without following all of these rules you probably won't get listed on Yahoo!

And they probably won't tell you that they aren't going to list you. You simply have to wait. On top of that, sometimes perfect sites simply fall through the cracks. It is an extremely tricky endeavor to get listed on Yahoo! But because the benefits are so great, it warrants all of the effort.

As a rule of thumb, I wouldn't submit a site more than once every 4 to 6 weeks. It's hard to be patient. But if you submit too many times they might not list you just because you are annoying. 

Question: What can I do to get myself listed on all the other search engines?

Answer: This is really the million dollar question. While Yahoo is terrific, you don't want to put all your eggs in one basket. After all, you might never get listed in Yahoo! and then you wouldn't have any search engine positions.

The biggest problem I see is usually a lack of focus on the phrases you want to rank well on and what is a likely battle to win. Everyone would like to come up when someone types in a single word. But realistically, even if you could get ranked well on a single word, the people that found you wouldn't be ideal customers anyway.

I did some work for a home builder in my town that wanted to come up when someone typed in the word 'builder'. There are two problems in this scenario. First, when people on the Internet are searching for the word 'builder' they typically are searching for web site builders, not home builders.

So even if he could have come up under the word 'builder' all the millions of people that came across his listing would not be interested in what he built or for that matter where he was building. At that point, we came to the conclusion that perhaps 'home builder' would be more accurate.

The down side to this phrase is, no matter how beautiful Medina Ohio is, not everyone wants to move here. So the chances of someone typing in the phrase 'home builder' and wanting to live here were pretty unlikely. At that point we started to really consider how people are searching for companies that do exactly what he does.

By focusing on a phrase like 'Medina home builder' or 'Medina, Ohio home builder' he knows that anyone who is searching for that phrase is looking specifically for a business just like his. So he has pre-qualified them already before they have even seen his site.

And secondly, he is going to have an excellent chance of ranking well with that phrase because there aren't 100's of thousands of companies vying for that particular phrase. He now gets queries from all over the country from people who are interested in moving to Medina, Ohio.

Question: What advice do you have for ranking high on the phrases I have chosen?

Answer: I have three tips that will get you ranked well on the search engines. First and foremost, research your key phrases.

Picking phrases that are either too competitive or not commonly searched is going to give you nothing but frustrating results.

Spend some time looking at your competitions' web sites. See what key phrases they are using and start making a list. If you start going to enough sites you will begin to see trends of what phrases they are focusing on.

Ask friends who aren't in your business how they would search for a business like yours. Or better yet, sit them down to your computer and watch them search. Notice things like capitalization, spelling and if they are using plural words. You will want to use phrases exactly as they have typed them.

At this point you need to see if you can really compete well on these phrases. You need to know how competitive the search engine field is for the phrases you want. If the competition is too fierce your likelihood of ranking well is pretty nil.

There are things you can do for highly competitive terms but it's really outside of this discussion. If the field looks pretty open then go for those words. For sites that include only a couple pages start by choosing 3 key phrases and using them throughout your site.

Second, use these phrases all throughout each page. You will want to include them in your title, description and keyword tags. Make a heading using these keywords. Use them in your image alternative text tags. Put them in a phrase that is an active hyperlink. And use them in the body of your text through out the page.

If all of this sounds too technical just ask your web developer to help you find exactly where these things are in your site. All web sites have these things. It sometimes just takes a bit of time to find where they are.

And then thirdhand submit your site to the top search engines. There are many programs that will submit your site for you. But I have found that you are going to get the best results if you go to each and every search engine and submit your site yourself.

There are about 15 to 20 top search engines. Doing this the first couple times will be slow going. But the process becomes much faster with time and experience.

Utilizing these three steps is going to help you place much better on the search engines right now.

Question: Should I do this work myself or should I hire a professional?

Answer: Answering this question depends on several factors. First, search engine optimization is not cheap. Hiring a reputable company to place you well on the engines is going to cost close to a minimum of $1000 wherever you look. It's expensive because it is highly specialized work and the industry is constantly in flux.

Search engines are continually changing how they determine rank for sites. And decoding these algorithms involves a great deal of experimentation and constant research. What worked last month very well might not work this month.

Then you have to consider how interested you are in the field. If the vagaries of search engines strike a chord of interest in you then you might have a terrific time learning the ins and outs of search engine optimization.

And finally how much time do you or someone on your staff have to invest in learning about this field. The learning curve could very well cost you more in time than simply hiring a company to do the work for you.

If you are going to do the work yourself, make one person on your staff the search engine expert. This approach will serve you better than a committee. Just rely on this person to bone up on all the intricacies of the search engines.

Learning the basics can take some pretty steady educating but once they are up to par, maintaining a high level of proficiency won't involve nearly as much learning on a daily basis.

Question: If I want to hire a company to do this kind of work for me what should I look for?

Answer: There are many search engine promotion companies out there. It won't be difficult finding a bunch of different companies to evaluate - simply type in 'search engine placement' as a start in any search engine.

Once you've looked over several companies that match your price range and seem to offer what you are looking for then send them an email or give them a call. The rapport you have with an optimization company is going to be important because you are going to be working with them for at least a few months.

You need to feel comfortable with them. They also need to be easy to contact and willing to answer your questions because chances are, you are going to have a lot of questions. Personally, I would look for a company that offers email access and phone access too.

Any company that is reluctant to give you both of those could be a potential risk. You might not need to worry if they don't want to give you a street address. Many very capable optimizers work from home and don't feel comfortable advertising their home address.

After you feel comfortable with this person then ask for some references. Try to get some web addresses of clients with whom they have dealt. Email some of these people to see what they have to say. Did the optimizer do what he said he would do? Was he courteous and prompt at responding to concerns? This will probably be the biggest factor in determining if the company is right for you.

Next you will want to consider what kind of guarantee the company offers. If a company guarantees that you will be placed in the top ten in all the search engines be very careful. They cannot guarantee this kind of thing. No one can guarantee you a specific place in a specific engine.

Chances are, there is some fairly complicated fine print they aren't telling you about. In fact, some of the top, most expensive placement experts offer no guarantee at all. Their work speaks for itself. The most ideal guarantee, in my mind, is to return payment if the specified results are not met.

This way there is no risk on your part and you know also that you are dealing with a reputable company that understands the intricacies of the search engines. So just remember, do you like them? Have they had good results with other companies? And what kind of guarantee do they offer? Answering those three questions is going to help you immensely in finding a search engine expert that is right for you.

Thank you Sage for your very valuable insight.

If you have further interest in this subject you can discover much much more valuable information on the Executive Industry Interview Series cassette tape that I did with Sage. Things like:

Question: Search Engine companies use a lot of different pricing models--what are the differences and is one better than another?

Question: Some companies offer Maintenance Packages.  Do I need to enter into a maintenance contract?

Question: I've got some positions I really like. I've decided not to buy a maintenance plan. Now what do I do?

Question: Should I submit all of my pages to the search engines or just the main page?

Question: What are the most common mistakes people make?

Question: What other things can I do to promote my site?

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